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Post by soundofthegunz on Apr 1, 2024 12:56:23 GMT -8
I am soliciting your help in developing and refining a list of the most relevant pregame and halftime stats for use in this season's best broadcast in all of indoor football. Humbly, I say.
I've seen many pregame, halftime, and postgame statistic comparisons presented for indoors, and so have you. Most of the numbers are identical to the outdoor game, and they seem less useful in describing the matchup pregame, the story at the half, or summarizing in postgame for indoor football.
I'd like your take on what numbers matter and what numbers matter not. I have my own opinion, of course. Please argue and disagree. I need criticism to get better. Seriously. Show your love by your hate.
Pregame relevant: Add more, or nominate for deletion.
Season record
Conference record
Avg points for
Avg points against
Points per possession
Points allowed per possession
Passer Comp/Att %, TD/INT
Rusher ypc, TD, FUMB
Turnover total, +/-
Halftime relevant: Add more, or nominate for deletion.
Passer Comp/Att %, TD/INT
Rusher ypc, TD, FUMB
XPK att/made
Defensive scores
Deuces made
Possessions ahead or behind and reasons (turnovers on downs + turnovers + missed FGs)
Halftime irrelevance:
Total offensive yards any kind
Time of possession
3rd down conversions
Penalties/yards
Postgame relevant: Who cares? Final score is everything, shut up and end the stream already.
New team records
(Same as half)
Passer Comp/Att %, TD/INT
Rusher ypc, TD, FUMB
XPK att/made
Defensive scores
Deuces made
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Post by alecs on Apr 1, 2024 16:18:04 GMT -8
I am soliciting your help in developing and refining a list of the most relevant pregame and halftime stats for use in this season's best broadcast in all of indoor football. Humbly, I say. I've seen many pregame, halftime, and postgame statistic comparisons presented for indoors, and so have you. Most of the numbers are identical to the outdoor game, and they seem less useful in describing the matchup pregame, the story at the half, or summarizing in postgame for indoor football. I'd like your take on what numbers matter and what numbers matter not. I have my own opinion, of course. Please argue and disagree. I need criticism to get better. Seriously. Show your love by your hate. Pregame relevant: Add more, or nominate for deletion. Season record Conference record Avg points for Avg points against Points per possession Points allowed per possession Passer Comp/Att %, TD/INT Rusher ypc, TD, FUMB Turnover total, +/- Halftime relevant: Add more, or nominate for deletion. Passer Comp/Att %, TD/INT Rusher ypc, TD, FUMB XPK att/made Defensive scores Deuces made Possessions ahead or behind and reasons (turnovers on downs + turnovers + missed FGs) Halftime irrelevance: Total offensive yards any kind Time of possession 3rd down conversions Penalties/yards Postgame relevant: Who cares? Final score is everything, shut up and end the stream already.New team records (Same as half) Passer Comp/Att %, TD/INT Rusher ypc, TD, FUMB XPK att/made Defensive scores Deuces made The way I'm thinking through this, for each point in time (pregame, halftime, postgame) I would want to start with the base statistics first. Which categories would a newcomer to indoor football be able to most easily understand? And then build the hierarchy out from there. For Pregame, I would envision something like this, with the items at the top of the list with highest priority: Season recordAvg points for
Avg points against
Turnover total, +/-
Total Yards For/Against [can separate Pass and Rush Yds/Gm if desired]
QB Comp%, TD/INT ratio [this one loses a bit of luster if it is known that team's QB is not playing in the game]
Conference record [will probably hold more significance towards the end of the season, as one of the primary tiebreaker methods] Leading Rusher Yards/Carry, Yards/Game, TD, FUMB Leading Receiver Yards/Catch, Yards/Game, TD [if you want to highlight particular players leading up to kickoff] Points per possession Points allowed per possession [these lean more towards advanced metrics] The ideal lineup for Halftime would summarize the first 30 minutes of play, while potentially offering a glimpse of what to expect in the rest of the game based on the first half: Current Score
Rush/Pass Yds Per TeamYards Per PlayTime of Possession [perhaps # of possessions would be insightful to explore]
Penalties/Yards
Historic Win-Loss Record when trailing/leading at half [For example, "The Pirates won __ out of __ games when leading at halftime in 2023"] Individual Passing/Rushing/Receiving/Defensive Leaders for both teams Other Notable Individual Performers [could carry value if one player is taking the game by storm with several big plays and/or touchdowns] Postgame would look almost identical to Halftime, with the notable exception of updating each team's record once the game goes final. Perhaps a first stat graphic could be offense-focuses, whereas a second graphic to follow could focus on defense/special teams performers. So that's how I would build my framework of broadcaster's focus if I was in charge. Like I said, start simple, and then adapt based on peer and fan feedback. If an overwhelming amount of fans are expressing an eagerness to learn more about the predictive stats, maybe wedge in a section for number of possessions per game and/or average time per possession, for example. |
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Post by DiamondThief on Apr 1, 2024 16:41:43 GMT -8
I like hearing just about all of those during the pregame. The conference record is the first tiebreaker in the IFL, so that's a key one during especially the second half of the season; definitely a keeper. All of the others look good. I would add receiver ypc, TD, FUMB to that list.
For halftime and end of game, time of possession isn't necessarily a factor as it is in the outdoor game. You can have one team winning that 40 minutes to 20, but the other team scoring on a few long passes which really skew it, so I would lessen that. I only note that in recaps if it's a really close game, like both teams score in the last minute after it having been tight all game, then I might note it, but otherwise in the indoor game I think it's something I would go without. The halftime stats look of interest to me otherwise. Also, add 4th down conversions since those are actually someone common in the IFL.
The summary at the end of games makes sense along with some individual player stats. My preference would be to summarize the leaders and not necessarily go all the way down to the receiver who caught one pass for 2 yards (unless it was for a touchdown). In addition to defensive scores, I would add special teams scores (if you hadn't already had that in mind!).
I think you have a pretty good handle on it. If you're going by the stats from the IFL, they can lag a little bit so you may have to work on the fly in some cases. Thus fear this season, they actually have been a little better about having the teams keep up with it.
That's all I can think of. I know you have a lot to keep up with in what seems to the listener like a short amount of time.
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Post by soundofthegunz on Apr 3, 2024 19:18:45 GMT -8
Thanks for the comment in show. I'm glad to say Coach Menas knew you who y'all were!
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Post by Monika on Apr 4, 2024 17:51:34 GMT -8
Thanks for the comment in show. I'm glad to say Coach Menas knew you who y'all were! I tried to get into the chat earlier, but I was having trouble with the internet where I was. Cool to make ourselves known at the Alamo. |
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Post by soundofthegunz on Apr 5, 2024 5:56:01 GMT -8
Keep it up. Become a regular. Offer opinions. Give relevant and timely reasons to come to SCtC. They become advertisements.
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Post by Nevadanut on Apr 5, 2024 17:27:02 GMT -8
Keep it up. Become a regular. Offer opinions. Give relevant and timely reasons to come to SCtC. They become advertisements. Hello Ralph. I'm Heidi and I think you already know that I put together the game previews for our site. I like that idea. I'll try to jump in there next week as well. |
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