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Post by spiderfan on Dec 15, 2016 18:03:58 GMT -8
Going into this next season I don't know for sure how long the AFL will last. If I were to guess the league probably won't last to 2019, Baltimore and Washington will fold, TB will end up in the NAL, the Glads will end up in the IFL, and the Soul may make a move to the IFL or NAL but could also fold. No idea where they go. I'm curious to see what you all think that projection.
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Post by SurferGirl on Dec 15, 2016 18:13:01 GMT -8
I'm going to guess that DiamondThief has a thought or two on this. |
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Post by pajarito on Dec 22, 2016 16:32:36 GMT -8
I don't know why you're so convinced that the IFL is so above where the AFL is right now, and that the AFL should merge with the IFL or more AFL owners will join with the IFL. No doubt the AFL is on shaky ground at best and could very well fold up again by 2019, I don't think many argue against that. One main thing people keep pointing out is that these two leagues' plans and target markets are quite different from one another, so that they should or will merge is quite unlikely.
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Post by spiderfan on Dec 23, 2016 11:41:29 GMT -8
I don't know why you're so convinced that the IFL is so above where the AFL is right now, and that the AFL should merge with the IFL or more AFL owners will join with the IFL. No doubt the AFL is on shaky ground at best and could very well fold up again by 2019, I don't think many argue against that. One main thing people keep pointing out is that these two leagues' plans and target markets are quite different from one another, so that they should or will merge is quite unlikely. I don't think a merger would actually happen. Though I think that could be good. |
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Post by David on Dec 23, 2016 12:25:36 GMT -8
I don't know why you're so convinced that the IFL is so above where the AFL is right now, and that the AFL should merge with the IFL or more AFL owners will join with the IFL. No doubt the AFL is on shaky ground at best and could very well fold up again by 2019, I don't think many argue against that. One main thing people keep pointing out is that these two leagues' plans and target markets are quite different from one another, so that they should or will merge is quite unlikely. Are you referring to what was said on here or what was said on ArenaFan? If it's what was said on ArenaFan, I've honestly droned some of those arguments out since there's regulars on there that are so convinced that the AFL is above all else and anyone that says differently is wrong. If you're referring to what's said on here, Spider didn't say specifically the AFL should merge. Based on recent defections of Iowa, Spokane, and Arizona, it's not surprising to think what other AFL teams could possibly defect to join the IFL... well. What little teams are left. Based on the geography model the IFL wants right now, Cleveland's the only team that would fit. I personally don't see an IFL/AFL merger. Ever. The rules and the business models are different. And (unlike what a "Guru", stormjr, and a egomaniac named Ivan Soto say), I find the talent level in the IFL to be better than the "dirt" they assume. Not to mention based on interactions with the players, I've found IFL players are more humble and they seem to have more of a desire to make it to the next level than the AFL players I've spoken to. If the IFL were to merge, I see more of a possibility with the CIF... but the IFL has already seen a league merger and a bunch of teams fold. The IFL itself was a merger between the Intense Football League and United Indoor Football and that resulted in a boat load of expansion teams -- and most of those folded because they weren't prepared for the new league format. If they were to absorb another league, they're going to exercise more caution than the last time. I don't think it's also so much that the IFL is light years above the AFL, but the IFL's done basic things right that the AFL couldn't figure out over the last several years. Rather than make owners invest bleeding money into dead teams (Portland, New Orleans, Las Vegas, Chicago, San Antonio), the IFL has the guts to say "oh you didn't pay a bill? You're out" and terminate the team's presence in the league (as was the case with the Axemen and the Havok). |
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Post by spiderfan on Dec 23, 2016 16:59:15 GMT -8
I don't know why you're so convinced that the IFL is so above where the AFL is right now, and that the AFL should merge with the IFL or more AFL owners will join with the IFL. No doubt the AFL is on shaky ground at best and could very well fold up again by 2019, I don't think many argue against that. One main thing people keep pointing out is that these two leagues' plans and target markets are quite different from one another, so that they should or will merge is quite unlikely. Are you referring to what was said on here or what was said on ArenaFan? If it's what was said on ArenaFan, I've honestly droned some of those arguments out since there's regulars on there that are so convinced that the AFL is above all else and anyone that says differently is wrong. If you're referring to what's said on here, Spider didn't say specifically the AFL should merge. Based on recent defections of Iowa, Spokane, and Arizona, it's not surprising to think what other AFL teams could possibly defect to join the IFL... well. What little teams are left. Based on the geography model the IFL wants right now, Cleveland's the only team that would fit. I personally don't see an IFL/AFL merger. Ever. The rules and the business models are different. And (unlike what a "Guru", stormjr, and a egomaniac named Ivan Soto say), I find the talent level in the IFL to be better than the "dirt" they assume. Not to mention based on interactions with the players, I've found IFL players are more humble and they seem to have more of a desire to make it to the next level than the AFL players I've spoken to. If the IFL were to merge, I see more of a possibility with the CIF... but the IFL has already seen a league merger and a bunch of teams fold. The IFL itself was a merger between the Intense Football League and United Indoor Football and that resulted in a boat load of expansion teams -- and most of those folded because they weren't prepared for the new league format. If they were to absorb another league, they're going to exercise more caution than the last time. I don't think it's also so much that the IFL is light years above the AFL, but the IFL's done basic things right that the AFL couldn't figure out over the last several years. Rather than make owners invest bleeding money into dead teams (Portland, New Orleans, Las Vegas, Chicago, San Antonio), the IFL has the guts to say "oh you didn't pay a bill? You're out" and terminate the team's presence in the league (as was the case with the Axemen and the Havok). I see the Glads being an IFL team within the next 2 years. That will be a big win for the IFL as the attendance for Glads games are high. |
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