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Post by jgary48 on Jul 9, 2017 12:47:22 GMT -8
We want congratulate the Arizona Rattlers on winning their first Ifl championship The subject of today's article has a great deal of effect on them as they prepare for 2018. The Ifl has a three year veteran rule simply stating that players can only play for a member team for three seasons. Teams have too be good recruiters too stay on top in this league. Sioux Falls, a team that has won six titles, has been exceptional at doing this but now the pressure is on Arizona. The Rattlers are coming over from the AFL where no rule like this existed thus an adjustment is needed however it could hurt them especially at quarterback. In AFL years the job fell to Nick Davila and maybe a couple of backups if he got hurt. This season there was no Nick Davila on the field and the team didn't get the same production it normally got from the position. This wasn't noticeable because the other areas of the team were strong but if the team loses heavily because of this rule it's production could suffer and it's Regina as champion could be short. Next week Ifl free agency a preview
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Post by SurferGirl on Jul 9, 2017 15:45:17 GMT -8
I thought the veteran rule allows for seven players are allowed to be kept per team beyond three years. It still makes it tricky for coaches and general managers to hold on to some players, but there is some leeway there. I could be wrong in this, but the Rattlers can benefit from this over the next two years since nearly their entire roster will still have a couple years left before they may be on the chopping block to the veteran rule. They still will be able to retain seven of their players. It's like how NBA and NFL general managers have to manage the salary caps during the off-season. It's a matter of making the decisions that must be made in order to work within the rules.
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Post by David on Jul 10, 2017 0:29:26 GMT -8
Not true. The rule is a member team team can only have seven players on their roster with more than three years of professional experience.
In my opinion, Darron Thomas is not an arena/indoor QB, and the fact that he couldn't keep the starting job in the IFL shows he's struggling to adjust. He made strides with the Thunder in 2015, but appears to have regressed since then.
As for Cody Sokol, I think he's your guy. Overall QB production was down, but look at their rushing stats. They were at the top of the league rushing the football. If you have success running the ball, you don't need to pass as frequently.
I'm not 100% on how many Rattlers players fall under the 3 year veteran rule. They'll probably be okay though. This rule is only 2 years old, and Sioux Falls has made it to two straight United Bowls with this restriction.
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Post by afrats on Jul 10, 2017 5:15:36 GMT -8
We want congratulate the Arizona Rattlers on winning their first Ifl championship The subject of today's article has a great deal of effect on them as they prepare for 2018. The Ifl has a three year veteran rule simply stating that players can only play for a member team for three seasons. Teams have too be good recruiters too stay on top in this league. Sioux Falls, a team that has won six titles, has been exceptional at doing this but now the pressure is on Arizona. The Rattlers are coming over from the AFL where no rule like this existed thus an adjustment is needed however it could hurt them especially at quarterback. In AFL years the job fell to Nick Davila and maybe a couple of backups if he got hurt. This season there was no Nick Davila on the field and the team didn't get the same production it normally got from the position. This wasn't noticeable because the other areas of the team were strong but if the team loses heavily because of this rule it's production could suffer and it's Regina as champion could be short. Next week Ifl free agency a preview You need to read up on the veteran rule because this is not how it works. The veteran rule puts players in categories from V (3+ years experience in the league), 2, 1, and Rookie. The veteran rule limits the number of veterans that are allowed to play on a team to seven. It does not limit the number of years that a player is allowed to play on a team. It does make recruiting an important piece of coaching because coaches need to balance the roster with the 7 Veterans that they are allowed to carry with the younger players that they pick up to fill the holes. In the future, please make sure that you understand a rule before you imply that it will completely change the outcome of the season and the offseason. The rules need to be understood by those reporting on it as much as those that play be them. It is our job to ensure that the fans get the correct information and not led down a path where they rant about something that isn't even true. Thanks and have a great day. |
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Post by afrats on Jul 10, 2017 5:18:32 GMT -8
And BTW, the rule applies to 3+ years in ANY INDOOR league. So, players that have played in other leagues for 3+ years are labeled as veterans in the IFL, including all those players that played in the AFL last year with the Rattlers. This is important to understand because it forced Arizona to adjust their roster coming into this season to get their veteran core to 7 or less and they followed that all season, because it is a league rule. There was not more allowed because they were in a different league last year, that didn't matter.
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Post by SurferGirl on Jul 10, 2017 5:31:38 GMT -8
And BTW, the rule applies to 3+ years in ANY INDOOR league. So, players that have played in other leagues for 3+ years are labeled as veterans in the IFL, including all those players that played in the AFL last year with the Rattlers. This is important to understand because it forced Arizona to adjust their roster coming into this season to get their veteran core to 7 or less and they followed that all season, because it is a league rule. There was not more allowed because they were in a different league last year, that didn't matter. That's one area I wasn't sure about. It makes sense that it would apply to all leagues. I hadn't been sure if the Rattlers just lost players since they switched to a league which pays considerably less. |
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Post by David on Jul 10, 2017 10:17:56 GMT -8
And BTW, the rule applies to 3+ years in ANY INDOOR league. So, players that have played in other leagues for 3+ years are labeled as veterans in the IFL, including all those players that played in the AFL last year with the Rattlers. This is important to understand because it forced Arizona to adjust their roster coming into this season to get their veteran core to 7 or less and they followed that all season, because it is a league rule. There was not more allowed because they were in a different league last year, that didn't matter. That's one area I wasn't sure about. It makes sense that it would apply to all leagues. I hadn't been sure if the Rattlers just lost players since they switched to a league which pays considerably less. Unfortunately the Rattlers' website does not indicate how many years of experience each player has on the team roster page. The IFL's guilty of this as well. If you click on a player's name, it only shows the stats of the current season. It has no indications of previous season stats, let alone how many years of experience they have. If you want to find previous year stats, you have to go the long way around and try and locate that player's stats from previous seasons. |
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Post by afrats on Jul 10, 2017 10:29:24 GMT -8
That's one area I wasn't sure about. It makes sense that it would apply to all leagues. I hadn't been sure if the Rattlers just lost players since they switched to a league which pays considerably less. Unfortunately the Rattlers' website does not indicate how many years of experience each player has on the team roster page. The IFL's guilty of this as well. If you click on a player's name, it only shows the stats of the current season. It has no indications of previous season stats, let alone how many years of experience they have. If you want to find previous year stats, you have to go the long way around and try and locate that player's stats from previous seasons. I can tell you from experience of seeing the official roster's each week that they know who those players are. Each week we get the Official IFL rosters and the year group that they fall into is listed for all to see. You are correct though, most team websites do not have that category listed. To the average fan that doesn't really matter. |
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Post by David on Jul 10, 2017 10:38:37 GMT -8
Unfortunately the Rattlers' website does not indicate how many years of experience each player has on the team roster page. The IFL's guilty of this as well. If you click on a player's name, it only shows the stats of the current season. It has no indications of previous season stats, let alone how many years of experience they have. If you want to find previous year stats, you have to go the long way around and try and locate that player's stats from previous seasons. I can tell you from experience of seeing the official roster's each week that they know who those players are. Each week we get the Official IFL rosters and the year group that they fall into is listed for all to see. You are correct though, most team websites do not have that category listed. To the average fan that doesn't really matter. Hmmm. Must be different than what I've gotten. Spokane's media capsules/flip cards are detailed with the rosters, season stats, name pronunciations, and slated starters.... they just don't have the veteran experience listed. However, they do list the years experience on their website. I suspect that's a carryover since the website's layout retained the style they used when they were in the AFL. |
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Post by afrats on Jul 10, 2017 10:42:41 GMT -8
Yeah, I get the official rosters directly from the IFL every week which includes drops and pickups and also has the year in there.
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Post by DiamondThief on Jul 10, 2017 18:19:18 GMT -8
I wish there were better updated by the teams of their own rosters. It certainly would help us gather that information more easily.
I like what Julie said about managing the veteran rule being like managing a salary cap in other sports. I can see a correlation to the challenges of each.
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